Yankees In Trade Talks For Washburn

I think thats too much for him and that awful contract

Anyone look on SI and see that the Braves are about to trade Mark Teixeira to the Angels for Robb Quinlan and Brandon Wood? That's a steal for the Angels

"I think thats too much for him and that awful contract"

The K-man is owed ~$4M. $6M for a #5 starter, and a lefty? I'd do that. He's better than Rasner.

V, I think he was actually talking about Washburn oddly enough.

The deal doesn't make any sense for the M's, if they want to dump Washburn's salary than don't take back another crappy one man in return. The Mariners would be better off keeping Washburn for another year than to trade for 3 more years of Kei Igawa.

At least Igawa will be closer to home...
For the Yankees, its expensive for a 5th starter, but he wouldn't be too bad. Olney pointed out his success at Yankee Stadium, which is pretty sensible. And yeah, he's a lefty. If nothing else, they get to try him out for a year and a half in exchange for Igawa and somebody who likely doesn't figure in the teams plans.

Personally, I would trade Igawa for plate of sushi, a 75' Pinto, Kirstie Alley's diet book or Amy Winehouse's crack pipe.

Not sure about Washboard though. He has a great ERA in Yankee Stadium...but is it because the Yankees can't hit lefties or because he feels comfortable there?!

He's better than Ponson and Rasner...but 10 mil per is a lot for a #5.

I think his flyball rate is pretty favorable for Yankee stadium, I could be wrong though.

Washburn had some success pitching for the Angels but has been nearly useless ever since he signed that FA deal with Seattle. Could he benefit from a change of scenery? Perhaps. But, is NY the best place for him to go? Tons of pressures, even for a 5th starter, and I'm not convinced Washburn can handle it.

Igawa and a prospect for him? Well, who's the prospect first? The Yanks would be taking on additional salary (Washburn at $10 million and Igawa at $4 million) so the prospect wouldn't be anything too special.

"He's better than Ponson and Rasner...but 10 mil per is a lot for a #5. "

Yes, it is. But 6 isn't. And that's what the deal would be about; 10 - 4 = 6.

Olney is a tool, there is no way they take Igawa's contract... He hasn't had a full season yet, his lowest ERA is 6.75 and he's owed as much money as Washburn, only it's spread out, there's no way that gets it done... I think Igawa being included in any deal would be like the Twins thinking that they could parlay Livan Hernandez and Michael Cuddyer into a top thirdbaseman! NO WAY THAT HAPPENS!!

"Cherry picking stats" ?!?! HA 63 consecutive innings with one start being a couple outs shy of a quality start another being one run and two outs away from a quality start and every other on being a quality start, there's no way that's a fluke, he just talked with his trusted pitching adviser (his college coach)and ever since then he's been tearing up the league, his record sucks because he doesn't get run support, but he's a #3 not a #5. Also last season he had two less quality starts than Santana, so put that in your pipe and smoke it. He's way more valueable than what he's being talked about and anybody that works in baseball knows these details or should. Anything less than a couple promising players would be foolish.

Washburn still has one more tw or three year deal him, so there's no way he accepts arbitration and he's definitely a Type B player minimum and that means the have to offer up the equivalent of two 2nd round players! Try Ian Kennedy for Washburn, or one of their top outfield prospects and a AA or AAA pitcher! Considering they'll get two draft picks and 1.3-1.4 seasons of Washburn, his value is higher than those two draft picks they'll get from offering him arbitration. I would say that after looking at the farm system, it would have to be Austin Jackson & Wilkins De La Rosa... Sure they're a couple of their better minor leaguers, but most of the minor leaguers suck, so that doesn't change what the asking price will be... We have plenty of starters to plug into the rotation...Ryan Rowland-Smith would take Washburn's spot and then there's Felix, Bedard, Silva, Dickey, Feierabend, Cesar Jimenez could get stretched out quickly, there's also a couple guys they wano see at AAA and AA. Kei Igawa is not even close to being included in any deal to the Mariners and Olney's talk of Igawa to Seattle is a racial imlication that we are Japan west because we have TWO, count it TWO Japanese players, the same number as Boston, the Yankees, and Los Angeles, but somehow because our two are more high-profile players than all but Boston's he thinks that we'll take him because we love Japanese players, which is not the case, up until this year, we signed the best Japanese player at their position and nobody else... Kazuhiro Sasaki, the best closer to come out of Japan; Shigetoshi Hasegawa, the best setup/middle reliever to come out of Japan; Kenji Johjima, the best catcher and only one to come out of Japan; and finally Ichiro Suzuki, the best Japanese positionplayer by far! Sorry Kei Igawa doesn't fit the mold of Japanese players that Seattle signs...

By the way Kei Igawa is owed 4MM for 2009, 2010, 2011 and still has 1.33MM left on this season, which brings the total to EXACTLY what Washburn is owed... Sorry, the Mariners don't need to cut salary, they clear plenty of money with Japanese rights for Ichiro playing RF and even if they did do it to save payroll, it would be pointless if Igawa was included... To eat another 4MM a year of bad contract and have that hang over the ball club for the next three years would surely screw Seattle when they are ready to compete, we need to get rid of the bad contracts like Vidro and Sexson, which both come off the books after this season, thank God... But Washburn is either going to be a salary dump, which means getting prospects in return, or we are going to want something from the major league roster, a major league contract for a AAA player isn't going to cut it... Too bad everyone forgets the draft pick compensation, because all I hear is he's not worth two players this and that, but nobody evaluates the deal as trading X player for the time he'd be playing plus Y and Z player to compensate for the lost draft picks... Since the Mariners would be free of the salary, it would probably amountto getting Y and Z player and forgetting player X as compensation wouldn't be requested in lieu of the Yankees eatting the rest of Washburn's deal... Also, if the Mariners were to get Jackson and De La Rosa, they'd probably kick in the remaining portion of Washburn's salary for 2008, since they expected to pay that anyways...

Um, BaseballGuru?

Washburn ain't gonna be a type A free agent. Hence, not 2 draft picks. Learn the rules, d00d. He'll probably end up being a Type C free agent (one 2nd round supplemental pick).

Jackson!!! and De La Rosa for Washburn???! LOL!

Um, BaseballGuru?

Washburn ain't gonna be a type A free agent. Hence, not 2 draft picks. Learn the rules, d00d. He'll probably end up being a Type C free agent (one 2nd round supplemental pick).

Jackson!!! and De La Rosa for Washburn???! LOL!

GURU - You are DREAMING if you think a pitcher making 10 mill per year with a 5 ERA...on on of the worst teams in baseball no less...is going to draw two stud propects like Jackson and De La Rosa. You're not even in the ballpark. Plus, the Yankees don't need anyone to kick in money. The only way the Yankees do this deal is pure salary dump...which means the M's get either an afterthought prospect or a project like Igawa. Your wasted 78 paragraphs and long diatribes notwithstanding.

And d00d, less words, more sense. Reading your posts gives me a headache.

V - True what you said about the money...but to have in the rotation next year too?? I'd like to think with 90 mill coming off the books, the likes of CC and Sheets on the market...and a healthy Hughes and Horne...we could have better options in the rotation than Washboard.

Also, the....cough cough...."Guru"...has an imfameous history of saying clueless things on the Yankee board. Don't mind him.

PS - This isn't the V I went to high school with at East, is it??

Washburn's last 8 starts have probably changed his status from extreme salary dump player to extreme salary dump player that might net the Mariners a B-/C+ prospect.

Either way, the Mariners need to take the best deal. If we can get a B-ish level prospect with the other team taking most of his contract, do it and RUN!

Okay, the Yankees would definitely take slary considering they are already paying 4 million in luxury tax. As fo Igawa, unless the Yankees ate all of his salary, there's no reason for the Mariners to TRADE DOWN to IGAWA for the same money, how about you guys use some logic... If we're dumping salary we aren't going to pi up the same EXACT salary from Igawa's contract... Holy crap, tell me you can't get this concept... As for my stupid things I say, you must be talking about the Posada deal being labeled by me as the worst signing of the offseason oside of Andruw Jones... Yep, I said that! Wasburn would be a Type B free agent. There is no type C, but way to tell me to know what I'm talking about, as you in the same breath, tell me that there is a Type C Free Agent... There is Type A, Type B, and then normal free agents, sure we'llca them Type C if you want... Type B is the top 40% of their position, which believe it or not, a mid 4's ERA is within that range, especially since they include even rookies who make 1 start as a piece of that pie, so when Igawa sucked it up for 6 starts a year ago, he basically made another pitcher eligible for Type A and Type B status... So Washburn isn't just competing for status against the cos of the rotation, but also the spot starters from AAA. By the way, the compensation is 1st round & sandwich pick between 1st and 2nd for Type A, sandwich pick and 2nd round pick for Type B, that would be about even for Austin Jackson and Wilkins De La Rosa, they aren't that amazing... I can give you 5 outfielders in our minor league system that would trounce Jackson's stat line... How about Halman, Saunders, Wilson, Diaz, Balentien, Raben, Carroll, Almonte, oh, sorry that's actually more than five... As for De La Rosa, if he was that good, he'd be on somebodies radar by the age of 23, nobody has even heard of this kid outside of New York... Sorry, but that's really not that much considering that as you guys say, the Yankees can buy whever they want, so those guys will just sit and rot on the bench... How about we throw in Kenji Johjima and you guys give us Wilson Betemit. Washburn and Johjima for Jackson, De La Rosa, and Betemit, plus we kick in 2MM a year for Kenji's salary and pay the remainder of Washburn's '08 salary... That would save them about 10MM.

Dude...you ever hear of a QUICK post to get your points across? lol

De La Rosa was a position player up until a year ago, converted to a RP, now converted into a SP. That's why he's in A ball. His arm is sick so they are finding a best way to utilize him.

Jackson just turned 21 and will be in CF in a year. Melky will be traded.

Again, you have ZERO prayer of getting this package.

The dumb things you said had nothing to do with Jorge...it had to do with any number of 1000 other long winded posts that everyone on the board made fun of you for EXCEPT for me.

PS - AGAIN, the Yankees have NO NEED for SEA to kick in money and give you better prospects. They HAVE money and 90 mill coming off the books on top of it.

PSS - Why the F^^k would they want Kenji?? He's hitting like Ray Charles and is grossly overpaid. They also have Cervelli, Montero and Romine in the minors...all stud cathing prospects. They need a stop gap with an expiring contract (Barajas, Olivo)...that's it.

He makes half as much as Jorge and his stats kill what Posada has done this year, plus he's a great defender... Talk bout the kettle calling the pot black... I'm sure George appreciates you spending his money for him, but I'd bet he'd take 10MM!!

Kenji raised his AVG 50 points during May... He got off to a slow start, but instead of letting im play through hs slump, they kept screwing with him... He the started to regress when Clement became the everyday catcher and Kenji wasn't in the lineup regularly except to DH every other day, which really isn't the same thing...

letting im = letting him

He the started = He then started

A guy hits close to .300 in both of his first two seasons and then you act like it was a fluke because of two bad months... What the heck... He's better than your other options, who else are you going to get to catch?! Kenji also could become the long term solution there, allowing Posada to become a 1B/DH with Jose Molina staying on as the backup!

"his stats kill what Posada has done this year"

Jorge (with a torn labrum)
.268 .364 3 22

Kenji
.210 .253 3 20

Um...what in those numbers "kills Posada"?? DUH!

This is why you're made fun of and why I can't waste any more time debating with you. You have ZERO clue! Jorge is hitting 58 points HIGHER and his OBP is 111 POINTS HIGHER....and did this with a torn shoulder. I HAVE a torn labrum and it hurts like hell to swing a bat. He's STILL a mile better than Kenji, who's numbers are beyond horrible. Not to mention AGAIN...they have great catching propects in the system...they don't NEED another big contract.

Finally, it's not about spending George's money...it's about the FACT in Yankeeland they would rather keep their A prospects and spend the money instead. Anyone who has read even ONE article on the Yanks knows this...except you I guess.

Do you really mean ANY of what you write...or are you just F'in with us?? Seriously dude. WOW! lol

I'm off to bed.

You don't seem like a bad dude...but after the "Kenji's stats kill Posada this year" comment, I can't even take you seriously anymore. You'd figure you'd have at least HALF a clue enough to look up basic stats before making such a ridiculous statement. NOT the case!!

Goodnight.

"I can give you 5 outfielders in our minor league system that would trounce Jackson's stat line"

I like Balentien, but come on man, a 21 year old in AA (in a different AA league; it's tough to compare stats cross-league), and a real prospect, to boot. You can't just look at AA numbers and say 'better prospect, worse prospect, etc.'.

"PS - This isn't the V I went to high school with at East, is it??"

East? Prolly not.

How about allowing more guys to steal a base on him than there are guys that want to nail his wife! That's the MAIN reason you employ a catcher in the first place, for his game calling and his abiity to keep runners honest!! Are you F'in with me?? Seriously dude. WOW! lol Can't believe you don't consider his HORRIBLE defense... Good point about the labrum, did he give part of his salary back to the Yankees for the inconvenience?!? Than I think you have to go off his production that he's done to this point, injury or not... I mean they are paying him to si on his ass the next however many months, so that's part of evaluating what a player doe for you...

si on his ass = sit on his ass

Hey so i remembering reading mlbtraderumors.com and you said that the most reliable leads come from people who know people in baseball. A friend of mine is close friends with paul lo duca and they said that paul's agent was contacted by the yankees. May turn out to be that he was lying or it may be true just figured i would let u know.

Mariners scouting the Yanks!

I can smell a deal coming on. I will flip the Mariners can actually get a quality player for Washburn. Just so everyone knows, his low ERA in his past 8 starters (right around 3.00) is smoke and mirrors. He is stranding baserunners like crazy. No way he can keep that up.

Who in AA could the Mariners be interested in besides Jackson?

Thank god for Guru. Im saving all of his posts to get me through my morning at work tommorow with a few too many good laughs. what a clown.

No surprise that the Yanks inquired about LoDuca. He's a catcher on the block and they could need to acquire one. LoDuca at least is only signed through the remainder of the season so it wouldn't create the roster squeeze next season like a Josh Bard would. But I still don't see LoDuca coming to the Yanks.

"Who in AA could the Mariners be interested in besides Jackson?"

Besides Jackson and Mark Melancon, they have a bunch of okay guys, but no one special.

George Kontos, Phil Coke, Jason Jones, Chase Wright, and Eric Hacker are all pitching well in the rotation. Anthony Claggett, Zach Kroenke, and Kevin Wheland are relief possibilities.

Offensive posiblities are Colin Curtis, Chris Malec, Ramiro Pena, Reegie Corona.

Honestly though, they aren't going to get anything good for him unless they pay some money. How about Chris Britton and they call it a day? The Yankees really don't have need for him, considering they have one of the best bullpens in baseball AND Brian Bruney should be back in a few days.

Would Chris Britton be fair? They can't expect much for him.

Certainly works from the Yankees' perspective, as they already have a very good bullpen with more talent in the minors. I don't know how much the Mariners would want a relief arm, but Britton seems like a solid piece.

And baseballguru, you need to put down the crack pipe if you think the Yankees will give up Austin Jackson for Jarrod Washburn.

I think if the Yankees take Washburn's whole contract they can send back pretty much any warm body not name Igawa they want to.

That's from a Mariner fan.

YOU WANT HOW MUCH FOR WASH- UPED?

The Mariners don't NEED to cut any payroll, a move of Washburn isn't worth it unless we get something for the draft picks we'd get next season for offering arbitration... The value of two picks is worth more in terms of development cost than what we'd save by signing someone else to take Washburn's spot in the rotation. If we were trading Silva, then it would be a salary dump, but when there's only one more full season left, dumping salary is unnecessary... We already will save 20MM just from Vidro and Sexson, not to meantion whoever else we trade or don't bring back. Even if we trade Washburn, we have to replace him in the rotation, so we might as well keep him unless we get something worth having, trading to trade is stupid and unnecessary...

Just to clarify the 5 players that can trounce Austin Jackson...

1) Wladimir Balentien, 23 - Has a .260/.362/.584 line in only 47 games with 37 R, 45 H, 11 2B, 15 HR, 41 RBI, 28 BB, 32 SO, averages around 15 SB a season, AN 2 OF Assists w/ 4 more in 32 games with the Mariners.

2) Greg Halman, 20 - Already has .270/.320/.550 line in only 94 games with 72 R, 101 H, 23 2B, 4 3B, 24 HR, 69 RBI, 25 SB, AND 9 OF Assists.

3) Michael (Mike) Wilson, 24 - Has a line of .283/.383/.552 in only 85 games with 51 R, 84 H, 18 2B, 1 3B, 20 HR, 63 RBI, 39 BB, 87 SO, 9 SB (0 CS), AND 9 OF Assists.

4) Michael Saunders, 21 - Has a line of .280/.360/.470 in only 84 games with 55 R, 87 H, 21 2B, 4 3B, 10 HR, 42 RBI, 37 BB, 86 SO, 12 SB, AND 2 OF Assists.

5) Denny Almonte, 19 - Has a line of .264/.310/.433 in 62 games with 21 R, 61 H, 14 2B, 5 3B, 5 HR, 30 RBI, 15 BB, 88 SO, 9 SB, AND 6 OF Assists. (was compared with Andruw Jones defensively coming out of HS in FL, hense his seond round selection, and he set FL State HS baseball records.

If only your fathers had pulled out, the rest of us could have been spared this Amy Winehouse of a conversation.

Let me start out be saying i hate typepad!! Now onto Babseball gurus claim that there those 5 prospects destroy Austin jackson. First i have a question where are those states from? More precisely i mean from which level and what is the age of the player? or are you just comparing random stats? Ill compare Jacksons current line(his age 21 line and AA level)

Jackson - 283/362/435 797ops 375AB's Age-21 Level-AA DOB-February 1,1987
Balentien - 230/337/435 772ops 444AB's Age-21 level- AA DOB-July 2,1984
Halman - 250/287/469 756ops 96AB's Age-20 Level- AA DOB- August 26,1987
Wilson -245/336/446 782ops 249AB's Age-23 Level- AA DOB-June 29,1983
Saunders - 290/375/484 859ops 248aB's Age-21 Level-AA DOB-November 19,1986
Denny Almonte is 19 and in A ball

So those are the actual comparisons not to mention i don't think those 5 guys are all center fielders, but the only one who has better numbers at the comparable age and level is Saunders. hence your entire point is WRONG

Let me also make it clear that i'm not saying that any of those 5 prospects are not legit, as i'd love to have them in my teams system. My goal was too prove that they don't all crush Austin Jackson as i think he is also a very good prospect. One who should garner way more then Washburn.

Also sorry for the final post but those stats are all from thebaseballcube.com

Jackson is having an even better season:

.297/.376/.456

Definitely legit.

I'm not sure why the Mariners would have any interest in Kei Igawa, other than the Japan connection. That fugly bastard has not shown he can pitch in the big leagues and is just proving the Yankees overpaid for him every time I see him pitch. I'm not saying he doesn't have value or potential, but not for a team like the Mariners. If they move an innings eating LHP because of salary reasons, they aren't going to take on another innings eating (well...maybe not) LHP with a contract even longer than Washburns while not performing as well.

And as a Red Sox fan, I would welcome Washburn to the AL East with open arms and invite him to stay as long as he'd like. He will get eaten alive. (And please don't talk to me about how he just pitched well vs. the Sox, he was on like 9 days rest so of course he's going to be fresh). He has rattled off some quality starts lately, but those came against WAS, ATL, SD, TOR, OAK, KC and Boston. Other than Boston and maybe Atlanta, he hasn't faced very good opponents.

I know the Mariners came out and said they didn't want to trade him, but I think Raul Ibanez would be an excellent fit for the Yankees. He plays solid D in LF and is a very good bat. I was watching the Sox/Mariners game last night and I couldn't stop thinking about how I would hate to face him 19 times a year if he was on the Yanks. He's a free agent at the end of the year, and will likely be a Type A free agent, so the Yanks would have to give up something pretty good for him, but I think it would be worth it to add him to the lineup. He'd be a better option than Gardner in LF, but I suppose it only makes sense if Jorge is out for the season (with Damon at DH).

"If only your fathers had pulled out, the rest of us could have been spared this Amy Winehouse of a conversation."

Bless you, arodsucksatlife, that's it, bless you.

"I would welcome Washburn to the AL East with open arms and invite him to stay as long as he'd like. He will get eaten alive."

The only reason I'm hesitant to jump on that train is the 2005 history lesson. Yanks acquired Chacon for next to nothing, were laughed at, and Chacon went onto have his only time in the sun while not fighting an exec.

Igawa makes sense only if the Ms also get at least a B+ prospect in return. I mean afterall, no one can say for sure Igawa will still be a trainwreck with a new setting (besides common logic). But really, closer to Japan, mingling with other ridiculous Japanese contracts... might turn into a decent #5 pitcher. More likely he'll get shelled by a six-year old girl's softball team... but still. The point being, I'm willing to bet quite a bit that Washburn will not be a Type-A free agent after 2009, so might as well sell high.

hope this trade doesnt happen. Darrel Rasner is not bad as long as he is getting caught by Moeller (which he will cause of posada). Ponson aint half bad either. The only benefit i see in this is letting go Igawa. If thats all the M's want then fine. But dont trade any prospects, and least good ones.

10 more losses by the M's and we won't have to worry about Gurus novels anymore. Its at the point where I am following that craphole of a team just to celebrate that day.

Guru how could you even think that trade could even somewhat be close to happening you need to get a check up on your head

How is Washburn not atleast a Type B player and considering that means he's worth at the minimum a supplemental 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick... I'd say that Austin Jackson and Wilkins De La Rosa are fair compensation, maybe we have to throw in a little something extra like Burke or Johjima and some money, but who cares... I'll take 6 IP and 2 ER every start from Washburn over taking your crap starter Igawa or some other piece of crap minor leaguer from a farm system that looks like a Salvation Army of prospects!

touchmymonkey, I'm going to post in EVERY thread you do above and below you, just to make your life hell and force you to read my crap, I'll post 10 times a day even when the Mariners lose 100 games... Just because I hate you and your stupid comments, you puss filled blemish on the ass of society, more like suckhismonkey should be your new handle on here... Try not to get to excited over this post and blow your top early! It's all in good fun! I'd offer you a high five, but I don't know where your hand has been!

On to baseball...

CarlitoBrigante,nice chery pick on Wilson, you grab his one season where they converted him to an all the time right handed hitter from being a switch hitter, screwed with his approach at the plate, AND moved him to a new position in the outfield... Sorry, b this year his numbers are way better than Austin Jacksons and will probably be almost 3 times the homeruns and RBIs, 2 times doubles, with the same number of steals... Austin Jackson may be agood prospect, but he's not going to be any better than Melky Cabrera and it's sad that you'd rather run Rasner out there than Washburn because of FOUR bad starts! Also, Washburn gets no strike zone love, but playing for the Yankees that would change, cause God knows pinstripes pitchers get three extra inches in every direction from the middle of the plate!

Point is that Halman, who just started playing the game in the last 5 years, is younger, playing better, and at theame level. Saunders, a few months older than Jackson is a level above him and had better stats lastyear at AA than Austin will have this year. Balentien has already been toiling in September with the parent club for almost a year off and is consider 2 years older by baseball standards, not to meantion that Balentien was at AAA a half season before Jackson will be, if he gets promoted this season. Final player is Almonte that I drew a comparison with. Almonte is one division behind him, two years younger and already putting up equivalent numbers, so by next season Almonte will be at AA killing his stats guaranteed!

THROUGH ALL OF THIS, MY POINT IS THAT AUSTIN JACKSON AND WILKINS DE LA ROSA BOTH LOOK LIKE THEY COULD EVENTUALLY HELP A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM, BUT THEY ARE NOT "SUPER-PROSPECTS"... JUST PROSPECTS, WHICH IS A TITLE GIVEN TO GUYS LIKE THEM THAT MIGHT PLAY MLB, FOR THE GUYS NOT EXPECTED TO MAKE IT, THEY GET THE TITLE OF "MINOR LEAGUER" NOT "PROSPECT"...

People don't trade for guys with 4 run ERAs in AA at24 which is most of what your AA team is, so when they are talking about bringing someone back for Washburn, it would be ATLEAST JACKSON OR DE LA ROSA, BUT NO WAY THEY DON'T GET ATLEAST ONE OF THEM!!

I hope this happens. I can't wait for when Washburn is shipped out for a neglible prospect and guru realizes hes been wasting hours every day posting this garbage. The name of the guy washburn is traded for in a salary dump trade will likely only be mentioned as a footnote.

Ok your clueless. First off learn how the compensation system works a type B free agent gets you a supplemental pick THATS it. Second i didnt cherry pick anything you just dont understand how to compare prospects. I compared his first AA season with Jacksons, you on the other hand throw together random stats to fit your argument. Wilson was in low A at the same age Jackson is in AA and your telling me hes a much better prospect? I would hope his numbers are better this year considering he's 3 years older and at the same level (AA) for the THIRD time in his minor league career.

Balentein reached AAA in his year 22 season, thats the same track Jackson is on. So that point is also incorrect he did not get to AAA a half season before anyone.

Halman is a few months younger and has 96 ab's at AA with worse numbers but better numbers in Low A(A-). Also you say Halman started playing the game 5 years ago. Well Jackson started playing baseball exclusively at 18 he was a highly regarded basketball prospect.

Saunders- I admitted he had better numbers, is he a CF or corner outfielder?

Almonte is in A ball i have no idea what the guy will do in A+ or AA so me guessing is pointless he could destroy each league or do nothing hes only had 277 pro AB's.

You think that Melky and Jackson are comparable players, thats shows you know nothing. You guarantee that the m's could either get a stud prospect or an intriguing converted outfielder-pitcher whos been throwing for a year . Lol other then the fact they are both in the NY system Jackson and De LA Rosa have nothing in common in terms of prospect status.

From the ESPN chat:
Jamal G. (Brooklyn, New York): Austin Jackson, rated the 14th best prospect in BA's mid-season rankings. Even us Yankee fans have been saying that seems a bit high, can you give us a little something as to why he was rated that high and if he can be an impact player at the Major League level?

SportsNation Jim Callis: As I've said before, a lot of players seemed higher on that list than they should be -- I don't think the minors are as deep as usual right now. He's a toolsy center fielder who's handling Double-A at a young age and has really come on in the last 15th months. He has a chance to be an all-star in the majors and I bet he's starting for the Yankees by the end of 2009.

Now i know these lists mean absolutely nothing but you think a 1 1/2 year of Washburn is worth that kind of potential? Really come on

Dude why do you post here do you like getting publically embarrassed?