Greyhawk's Meanderings - Comments

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mge — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:15:54 +0000

As someone looking forward to 34 years, three children, and three grandchildren, there's something to be said for "the swing of your hips." I'm an old fart but Matt Nathanson has expressed a sentiment that goes back to the old days. ( I mean Mozart, not just the standards of the 30s and 40s)

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Nat — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:05:52 +0000

Hi have seen IMAP crash domino many times on 802 and have been working with IBM for over 1 year on this issue as our environment is very different and any IMAP client can connect our servers. We are currently waiting for that 8.5 IMAP Hf to be build for 802. and a defensive fix.

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Vitor Pereira — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:25:01 +0000

Happy anniversary! Here's to many more!

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Greyhawk68 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:19:10 +0000

Why thank you, we are planning on another 60 years at least

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Phil Randolph — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:11:05 +0000

Mucho congratulations to you and Jen! We're still working on 13

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Tim Lorge — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:50:40 +0000

Congrats to the Mrs and you!! May you have many, many more!

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Rob McDonagh — Thu, 21 May 2009 17:29:45 +0000

@Nate - since when does understanding what you're doing mean you're not a victim? What bizarro world do you live in? The rest of us are over here, in the real world. Need a tourist visa for a visit?

John's right - make it legal, then the prostitutes won't be victims. Now? Almost all of them are. Some ("escort" types, mostly) aren't. The ones on the street corner who work for their pimps, though? Yeah, they're victims.

Besides, if the prostitutes aren't victims, what about the partners/spouses of the client? How many "johns" (sorry, Grey!) are single as opposed to being in a relationship? How many of their partners know they're visiting a prostitute? How would prostitution be victimless, again?

Bigamy has no victims? Go visit the bigamists in Utah, where their patriarchal society allows old men to have a dozen child wives, none of whom are given any choice in the matter.

Is it possible to have a relationship involving more than two people without having victims? Sure. Is it likely? Fuck no. Less than 1/2 of 1/2 of 1% of all such relationships would meet that standard. You know some? Good for them.

Oh, and as for:

"Only if you assume prostitutes and wives are ignorant, incapable, less-than-human people as you so frequently do, Rob."

But I'm the arrogant one. Riiiiiiiight. Your understanding of the way I think is obviously enormously limited.

Fuck you. Seriously. And the horse you rode in on.

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Mark hughes — Thu, 21 May 2009 12:52:31 +0000

I think you misunderstood what i was trying to say in number 6.

Of course i think those acts are worse than being gay, i could list you sins and rank them on severity, they are all wrong, but some have greater consequences than others. I do not have tolerance for murderers and rapist or child molesters, but i do for those who are gay. I was not saying that they were in the same league of immorality!!! Morality seems to have a sliding scale.

What i was saying is their are people who consider those to be lifestyle choices, they see nothing wrong with genocide(too many examples sadly), they see nothing wrong with child sex slavery(the far east, even here in the US their is a group using free speech to talk about how to molest children and past experiences), they treat women as objects( no rights, Taliban anyone).

I was trying to say those people listed above think you are a bigot for not agreeing with their viewpoints. I sure hope they view me that way.

Once again i was not saying gay people are as bad as murderers or even in the same realm, i was simply trying to find extreme examples of things i know you think are wrong, and then find others who do not think they are wrong. Trust me i am not supposed to hate, but i hate child molesters worse than murderers. Gay people are fine, i love them, but do not think they are living in accordance to Gods will.

Yes Adam was a better singer, he deserved to win, miss California was prettier she deserved to win.

My uncle is gay, i love him, i do not understand him, but i do love him. He knows that i do not approve of how he lives his life. This probably causes him pain, but it also causes me pain. When you believe there is a hell, and someone you love does not believe in God, you are in agony because you fear what will happen to them after death.

If you think i meant that gay people are as bad as murderers, you are wrong.

Just please excuse all my comments, i have that God gene they discovered, it makes me this way.

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Curt Stone — Thu, 21 May 2009 10:53:38 +0000

Wow, this thread got crazy (don't have time this morning to read it all)
I must say that I really enjoyed the show even though I had to click between the Yankees and Red Sox games.
KISS, Queen, Rod Stewart Carlos Santana and Cyndi Lauper were some of my favorites. May buy some Jason Mraz(thanks for the tip)
Glad to see music displayed so grandly for 2 hours and some unknowns get a chance to make it. No doubt, sexuality played a role. Interesting debate. Maybe the girls just thought Kris was hotter and texted their ass off.
Peace and Love (like Ringo says it)

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Greyhawk68 — Thu, 21 May 2009 04:04:16 +0000

Nathan,

I'm not saying this isn't a popularity contest.

That does factor in absolutely, but you cannot tell me that statistically the Gokey people wouldn't vote for Kris simply due to religious purposes. And it wouldn't make me so annoyed (or sad at the state of our country) if I didn't think that many people thought the same as Mark above.

Mark backtracked later but initially didn't think twice about equating the gay lifestyle with murder, rape and child molestation. I believe that is a common thought among the fundies, and probably way more common of a thought amongst Gokey supporters. Gokey supporters that then I'm positive voted for Kris.

Adam beat Kris last week by over a million votes. So the Gokey crowd had to carry quite a bit of weight this week. Normally they say "it was so close" Not tonight. My guess is Kris won by a lot.

It's a competition where anyone can vote, and vote multiple times. I'm not saying it isn't fair, but I'm fine making the assumption that the religious right swayed the outcome. I've seen enough "Adam is a fag" postings around the web to make that a real feeling for me. And I don't think those were coming from the Kris supporters at all.

You can call it intellectually dishonest all you want, but it just seems pretty common sense to me.

Also, I don't think that 100 Million votes cast for an online singing competition is awesome at all when compared to the poor voting turnout for things that matter in this country. The voting rates suck. The only thing that I can hope for out of this is that the younger generation that do vote for American Idol carry that same enthusiasm with them as they grow older. I'm skeptical, but it might happen.

Now you say that not voting for Adam because he is gay is as good of a reason as because he's not as pretty, or the girl won't feel reciprocated, or the homo guy wouldn't vote for Kris. In those three scenarios they aren't feeling in their heart that this person is evil for their lifestyle choice.

It's a major differentiator. There are all sorts of superficial reasons to vote or not vote. But voting because you believe a group of individuals are akin to murderers and rapists (dont forget beastiality, the right trots that out a lot) just because of their sexual preference is wrong. And I have the right to think it's wrong.

As for one person one vote sucking, well it doesn't really apply here since people can cast multiple votes. So it's moot. I don't really know a better way to do it, but that can be a big discussion for another day. I need sleep.

-Grey